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Each of these reads like an extremely horny and angry man yelling their basest desires at Pornhub’s search function.
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I don’t think just giving up and allowing porn deep fakes and stuff of people is really an acceptable answer here. The philosophical discussion of whether it’s “actually them” or not doesn’t really matter, it’s still intrusive, violating and gross. In the same way that stealing someone’s identity is illegal, it doesn’t matter that the identity created by the con man isn’t the real you, damage can be done with identity theft.
Maybe there’s nothing you can do about it on the dark web, but sites absolutely can manage deepdakes, in the same way that PornHub will take down non-consensual ex-girlfriend type content.
The way people are just throw up their hands at every new problematic issue with AI is not a good way of dealing with them, we don’t have to tolerate this stuff and now is the best time to deal with it and start creating rules and protections.
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The way people are just throw up their hands at every new problematic issue with AI is not a good way of dealing with them, we don’t have to tolerate this stuff and now is the best time to deal with it and start creating rules and protections.
Exactly. In another thread on here recently someone said something that basically boiled down to “your protest against AI isn’t going to stop it. There’s too much corporate power behind it. So you might as well embrace it” and I just cannot get my head around that mentality.
Also, you can absolutely see the models who were used as references in some of the images generated by apps these days. Like that popular one right now that everyone is using to make idealized images of themselves. A few of my family and friends used it recently and you could clearly see in some of the pics the A-list celebs who were used as pose references, like Gal Godot, Scarlett Johansen, etc. It’s creepy as hell.
Creepy isn’t illegal. Never has been.
I never said it was. But like the person I was replying to said: we need to take a good hard look at what the hell these tools are doing and allowing and decide as a society if we’re going to tolerate it.
The real issue here is what things like deepfakes can do. It’s already starting, and it’s going to continue accelerating, generating mis- and disinformation: for private citizens, celebs, and politicians. While you might say “it’s creepy, but there’s nothing we can do about people deepfaking Nancy Pelosi’s face onto their spank material”, it’s extremely problematic when someone decides to make a video where Joe Biden admits to running a CP ring, or some right wing chud makes a video of Trump appearing to say something they all want to hear, and it leads to a civil war. That’s the real stakes here. How we react to what’s happening with regular folk and celebs is just the canary int he coal mine.
I worry that the cat is out of the bag on this. The tech for this stuff is out there, and you can run it on your home computer, so barring some sort of massive governmental overreach I don’t see a way to stop it.
They can’t even stop piracy and there’s the full weight of the US copyright industry behind it. How are they going to stop this tech?
The tech isn’t there yet. There are so often distracting flaws around the hands/feet. The AI doesn’t really know what a human is, its just endlessly re-combining existing material.
As much as I loathe having to reveal this to you, the shapeliness of the hands should be semi-negligible to most people who would love to have an image created from the statement “I want to see Billie Eilish’s boobs”.
Agree that was a strange take. Can you usually tell it’s AI/fake? Yes. Is it still achieving the goal of the creator/user? Yes.
You underestimate how important the feet are to many.
I’m not into feet specifically, but when I ask for “Veronica Mars in a string bikini” I don’t want to get “Veronica Mars with unattached toes.” It’s distracting AF.
Doesn’t happen with real models, or even human-made hentai.
Doesn’t happen with real models
That actually happens quite a lot. Hollywood movie poster are especially full of it, as they rarely do specific photoshots for the poster and instead just copy&paste together whatever random images they can find. So you end up with stuff like the 300 poster where the sword doesn’t attach to the handle. Magazine covers adding an extra hand or leg isn’t all that uncommon either.
And that’s the expensive stuff, once you go into low-budget productions like self-published book covers, it’s all just crude stock image copy&paste at best.
